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How to card and not get caught
OK, so you want to card, eh? You see that Mac portable that's $5000, and know

you could handle one. You don't have to save up for 3 years to get it either.

The answer is CREDIT CARD FRAUD. It's a multi-million dollar a year

fraudulent scheme for those who know how to do it. All you need to do is

invest 2 minutes of you time to get ANYTHING that you want.



OK, to start off, here's a little tutor about the actual cards, carbons,

numbers, or whatever you want to call them...



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Information on Credit Cards





Visa Classic - in the format 4xxx xxx xxx xxx. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS start

with a 4. The 3 numbers after the 4 are the bank number (explained later).



Visa Gold/Preffered - in the format 4xxx xxxx xxxx xxxx. Same as the above

Visa, only has 16 digits. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS start with a 4. Same as the

Visa Classic, but with higher limits.



MasterCard - 5xxx xxxx xxxx xxxx. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS start with a 5. The

bank number is 3 digits after the 5.



Mastercard Gold - Same as the normal MC, but have much higher limits.



American Express- 3xxx xxxxxx xxxx. the number after the 3 is USUALLY a 7,

but doesn't have to be. This format is the same for the American Express

Gold. (usually have npr preset limit). Contrary to popular belief, AMEX's

have limits. It's how much finiancial holdings (So they can reposses your

house if you don't pay in time!) that determines said limits. Amex Gold's

have higher limits that Amex Classic. American Express PLATINUM (Creme de la

Creme) have limits that are usually in the hundreds of thousands (drug lords,

crooked politicians, Donald Trump, etc) and sometimes in the millions. If you

are lucky enough to get one of these (I had one in my entire career and I

won't tell you what I got with it, because I don't know of anyone else I ever

knew that has what I got) don't blow it on a box of 10 disks.



Discover - 6011 xxxx xxxx xxxx. These are similar to Amex cards, in that the

limit is set higher than Visa/Mc cards.



All of these cards have expiration dates. I know that Visa/MC/Amex and

Discover say it right on the card/carbon. If you don't have the exp date, but

you know the card is valid, try something like (1/91). Make it January of the

next year. That's pretty common. As long as the card hasn't expired, the

people don';t give a fuck.



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Finding Drop Sites



Now the second thing you need is what's called a drop, drop site, drop point,

whatever. You don't want to use anywhere closeby if you can help it. The

little old lady down the street is OK, but try to be diversified in where you

go. If you do alot of times in one area, the Secret Service get's calls and

then they come out there. While on the topic of the law, the ONLY branch of

law enforcement that investigates Credit card fraud is the Secret Service.

They are a branch of the Treasury department. The FBI has NOTHING to do with

credit card fraud. So if you see some Aries K (actually Chevy Corsicas now!)

cars with municipal plates around your neighborhood, be WEARY! They don't

just follow the president around with earpieces and black 3 piece suits!

These bastards will NAIL you. I almost found out the hard way!



OK back to the drops. Keep your ears open. I find that people ALWAYS blab

about when they are going away on vacation for a week or two or three. It's

human nature. I used a drop site one time for 2 straight months while the

residents were away. Things to look for are closed shades, floodlights that

are on, lights that go on at a specific time every night, old newspapers in

the driveway, whatever. Get the adress, Zip code, and city, and if you can,

who lives there (just look in the mailbox).



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Getting the Acutal Credits Card Numbers!



A few good ways to get carbons are to go trashing (looking in dumpsters of

gas-stations, and other stores that get alot of credit card business) or you

can get a JOB at a place like that! (Great, I did it myself) or you can use a

credit bureau such as TRW. Don't use this unless you ABSOLUTELY know what

you're doing. I still don't use it too much.



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OK, so you have your drop and you have your card number. So you want to

order, right? Well sort of. Take your time and decide what EXACTLY it is you

want. Don't be on the phone making the order sounding unsure of yourself.

Salespeople know what's going on then. Then call the place, and have the name

and adress and phone number ready. (You can make up a phone number, or use one

that rings and rings and rings, but don't use the one from the drop point).



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How To Order Your Goods!



Sample Order...



Computer Products, this is Steve, how may I help you?



Yes sir, I am looking to place an order on an item I saw in blah-blah

magazine. Can I ask you the price just for confirmation? (Stuff like this

makes it sound like you are the real guy, and are worried about your money!).



Steve- Yes, it is $699.



You- OK, that's what it says here. OK, I'd like to place an order for one

computer card.



Steve- OK, may I have your name?



You- John Smith



Steve- OK, and how would you be paying for this?



You -With my mastercard



Steve - The number please?



You - 5217 5478 0004 9812



Steve (reads back for confirmation)



You- Yes sir



Steve- OK, may I have your billing address?



You- (OK this is where it gets tricky. Sometimes the place will have to call

for confirmation when the billing and shipping addresses don't match. I'll

supply you with places that don't care). 1616 Mockingbird Lane, Anytown,

Anystate. 99457.



Steve- Allright, we'll ship that out to you today.



You - (The wisest choice is OVERNIGHT. Then they are in a rush to get it out,

and you get it ASAP wihtout worries.). Do you ship UPS Red label?



Steve - Yes we do. That's an additional $28.



You - OK, that's fine. Sir, could I have a total on that? (Sound serious)



Steve- Yes, that comes to $727.



You - OK, thank you very much.



Steve- Thanks for calling Computer Products, have a good day.



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Post Order actions





Allright, you placed the order and it seem to go flawlessly. What you need to

do now is to call back and get a shippers routing number (if you are not sure

that the place is totally GULLIBLE!). ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS use United

parcel Service if you can. They just leave the package at the door and leave.

Airbone Express, Federal Express, and DHL all require signatures. You either

have to risk being remembered by the guy, or you have to leave a note on the

door of the drop point. UPS is the easiest by far.



So, you call back to see if it shipped, and if it did, COOL! You're in

business.

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guy, or you have to leave a note on the door of the drop point. UPS is the

easiest by far.



So, you call back to see if it shipped, and if it did, COOL! You're in

business.

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Picking up your stuff at the drop point





When I started out, I was under the legal driving age. So I had a friend of

mine go in on me with this deal. He drove. If it's closeby, you could get

away with walking or riding a bike, but you look suspicious lugging a box

around with you. The onyl real way to get around the car problem is to go at

night so you aren't spotted.





***** ATTENTION *****



If you are TRULY desperate for a drop site (Such as me, I had to get my

girlfriend something special [ a $1200 diamond ring from BEST Products]) then

call the place you ordered from and get the routing number. Then get the

number for the local UPS/Airborne/DHL in your area. Tell them that you will

pick the package up on your way to work (or some shit like that). You go in

there, and SIGN THE SHEET WITH THE OPPOSITE HAND THAT YOU USUALLY WRITE WITH.

Then there is no way that you can be matched with it. Wear clothes that you

usually don't, but don't go in there in a clown suit, or you'll be remembered.

You can only do this once in a while though.



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Post Pickup Procedures



After you pick the package up, take ALL the stickers and marking that the

shipper and place you ordered it from put on there. This way, its

untraceable. Keep the box though, unless you are TRULY paranoid about your

parents or whatever. Also, try and get all the serial numbers off of it. Use

rubbing alcohol, a pen knife or whatever to scratch them out or peel them off.

Keep the nubmers somewhere (taped on the TOP part of your door) or some other

place that no one would ever dream of. They may come in handy once you know

what you are doing.



Also, if you are going to resell the item (It financed part of my childhood

until I got into other things) DO NOT give the person the registration and

warranty unless you really trust them. If they register an item with the

company, abd there happens to be serial nubmers in ROM or under some obscure

chip, you could be fucked.



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What to do if confronted



If you are ver confronted by anyone (Police, Shipper, retailer) do not admit

anything. Just deny you even know what they are talking about. The only way

you can be caught is if they actually record you placing the order, and find

you picking it up. Even then there are alot of ways out of that (Ask a

trustworthy lawyer, I am not giving away ALL my secrets!). If you need an

alibi in the way of "Where you got this?" just say you went to a computer show

and a guy sold it to you off the back of a truck. You didn't ask him any

questions, and he said he'd send you a receipt in the mail.





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Have Fun!



Now you have a way to get whatever the fuck you want, when you want it! It

works, beleive me. I have tallied up all the stuff I have ever done (Most is

still with me) and I got a total of $67,000. Yes sixty-seven THOUSAND.

That's after 3-4 years of straight carding.It would take the average kid about

67 years to save that much up. Not you though!



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MacWareHouse- 1-800-ALL-MACS (255-6227). They carry stuff for IBM's Macs and

Apple II's and maybe even Amiga's. They give you a catalog with your first

order (and every time after that) or you can call them and ask for a catalog.

They accept Visa/MC/Amex. Their only drawback is that they usually Ship

Airborne Express. However, they GUARANTEE overnight shipping for $3. Yes, 3

bucks. Not that money is a matter to you now, but it shows that they are

******* in a hurry to get your order out the door. I have found out that they

do the billing 3-4 days after you get the package. GREAT place to get what

you want. UPS RED is available, however, no one in their right mind would use

it, since it's like 10 times more expensive than Airborne (Macwarehouse has a

deal with Airborne, Macwarehouse is their biggest sender on the East coast!).

Whenever I go UPS from Macwarehouse, I just give the operator some bullshit

like "Airborne won't deliver to my location overnight and I need it quickly".

That's all.



Quality Computers- 1-800-443-6697. Another Gullible place. They sell stuff

for alot of computers too. They take Visa/MC/Discover. Nice place, uses UPS

and ships overnight too.



BEST Products, INC. 1-800-950-BEST. They sell EVEYRTHING (if you happen to

live near one of their outlets, go in there,a nd either grab a catalog, or

write down the product nubmers of what you want and give them to the operator

when you order! They take everything and ship everyway.



OK, now that I am just about out of this business for good (Heheh, nothings

definate!) I want you to take over in my tradition of glory. It is the

greatest thing that happened to my financial (and ***ual) life. What chick

couldn't dig you if you gave her a $1200 piece of ICE???



If you're careful, and don't go overboard, you'll never get caught. Don't

tell anyone except your most trusted friends (and not even them unless you get

them involved so they can't rat on you if your friendship goes sour). Even

though you virtually can't get caught (even if somneone rats on you) It's

always nice to be anonymous.
 
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I really like your profile , I was very Interested , I am new member on here , I will be very glad to heard back from you , I wanted you to help me out , how do I get a card to do some shopping please ?
 

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